tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post7422629032501397161..comments2023-11-04T21:26:59.215+08:00Comments on Becoming Jane Fansite: Tom Lefroy’s letter to Mary Paul, 1810Ichahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post-2460171848828496392007-09-15T08:25:00.000+08:002007-09-15T08:25:00.000+08:00I am as well convinced that JA felt this strongly ...I am as well convinced that JA felt this strongly for Tom and that he felt strongly for her a fact confirmed in his conversation with his nephew when he said he'd been in love with her, but it had been a boyish love. I also noticed in Persuasion the comment made by Anne Elliot and then Captain Wentworth, she to his friend about forgetting his true love so quickly, and that this must be the difference between a man's love and a woman's and Captain Wentworth's anguished reply to her, that this was not and would never be so if it was the sincerest and truest love. Yes, of course she could have created this because her heart wished it so much, but I am a firm believer in Jane Austen's using life as her creative and artistic springboard.<BR/><BR/>I find it very hard to believe that she would become "duped" by Tom when she VERY WELL understood the complications that would arise from such a relationship. Both of them having limited resources, and both aware of what this would mean. I find it hard to believe that Jane would allow herself to fall so stongly for someone that did not have reciprocal emotions and someone who had never shared said emotions. Someone who had not felt this kind of emotion for her.<BR/><BR/>Of course this is an emotional argument, but based on personal situations of me and many others. I am sure that someday we will find more research, the kind we need and are looking for, but until then I am the forever romantic, that in a world where it wasn't possible, bother lovers made the best of an impossibly heartbreaking situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post-11646619498254059842007-07-19T22:42:00.000+08:002007-07-19T22:42:00.000+08:00I always look forward to seeing what you've come u...I always look forward to seeing what you've come up with in this site, Icha and Rachel. ;)Arnie Perlsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720424361279466002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post-76463122222229539412007-07-19T14:03:00.000+08:002007-07-19T14:03:00.000+08:00But of course!I understand 'where you're from' Arn...But of course!<BR/><BR/>I understand 'where you're from' Arnie dear. I mean, your POV. And perhaps you're right... I am such a persistent and stubborn sleuth (Hahaha!), and I'm rather proud of that, my dear friend!<BR/><BR/>It's not hard to prove that JA often thought of TL, even in her 40s. And I do think that it's harder to prove that TL thought of JA in the same way. But to me, he did leave breadcrumbs. Subtle, but not unnoticed...<BR/><BR/>Glad to have you back! Busy life, eh?Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post-4051846324415591882007-07-19T00:35:00.000+08:002007-07-19T00:35:00.000+08:00I think you've been very ingenious in your argum...I think you've been very ingenious in your argument, Icha, but I think it is more likely, working only within the 4 corners of that 1810 letter, that Tom Lefroy was talking about all manner of earthly attachments, and the dangers they pose to spiritual elevation, as he perceived it, and I cannot find that extra "something" in the letter to tell me he had Jane Austen in mind as he wrote that. <BR/><BR/>I remain unshaken in being convinced that JA's feelings about Tom were lifelong, but I remain unconvinced that his feelings for her were reciprocally long lived. But I am open to the possibility that you are correct as to the survival of Tom's feelings for Jane. You are a persistent and stubborn sleuth, and if you are correct, I am convinced that sooner or later some facts will emerge which will support your ideas more powerfully.Arnie Perlsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720424361279466002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1129024732653900038.post-83557801146681430162007-07-15T11:25:00.000+08:002007-07-15T11:25:00.000+08:00I just want to thank Linda for correcting my spell...I just want to thank Linda for correcting my spelling mistakes. The keyboard went weird last night and it jumped up and down as I tried to place the pictures. Hence, some letters or words were unintentionally omitted. I hope this version is read better now. Thanks!Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.com